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Offline tatyan85

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Some Thoughts and a Possible Bug
« on: May 10, 2012, 06:57:29 AM »
So :D

First, I am a long-time fan of your mods^^ I loved them all, mostly the quest mod which are ALWAYS in my installation. They are pratically canon for me xD

This being said... I have mixed emotion about Yoshimo Romance, which might become the third in the list of Mods I Didn't Complete (I am thinking about uninstalling it)

You write him very well, indeed. He is believable and I understand your reasons.
But still, a mod in which you can't win make me frown a little.
Even the Xan Romance Mod, in the Bonded Path, had a not-reversible death. And it killed me inside a little, but in the end they went to Arvandor, so, it could be understood. And it was flawlessy canon, so, I got it.
In YoshimoRomance Mod... you just lose.
Now, I understand the idea "life is like that sometimes" and "it is the character". I really do. But this is not life but a game, and make a game in which you always lose make me a little bit confused.
Since I play for fun (while mostly we live because we have few other choices), I don't really get it.
I would like to note that I feel "cheated" just the same when you can't lose. You have to have both the opportunities for the game to be possible.
When I find this kind of mod (that I dearly enjoed, but I know the ending would be, in my opinion-, a lose-lose situation) I usually... well, I cheat a little and change the epilogues :P I do it often, mind you, even when the characters have an happy ending, mostly because I have very clear in my mind what my charname and the npc will do, so I change a little bit to incorporate it.
But here I can't find the .tra files, and so, not even that -bad, bad- way to continue the mod is possible.

I understand that it is a matter of taste. And that not-anybody would agree with me. But I thought that some costructive criticism would be understandable, yes?^^

So, off to unistall. And I hope you understand.
You are a great modder^^


About the bug: Yoshimo didn't appear after the fight with Irenicus in Spellhold. I don't know if it is normal or not :)

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Re: Some Thoughts and a Possible Bug
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2012, 09:28:52 AM »
Hi!

As for Yoshimo and the lack of appearance - well, that's strange, but I have never touched this part so he should appear as in usual game. That would have consequences in some more encounters, dreams, talks with Imoen. I am afraid that because of the bug you missed some contents. However, it wouldn't be very happy.

As for the plot - well, I usually say that you should consider who you romance. No matter what he did, he would always loose. I would never write something like "puff! the curse is gone" thing. Yoshimo is just... well... there's no solution for his "problem".

Another thing is that I do not seek happy endings in my games. I am sad-endings lover :) The more sad it is, the better, because it's more touching than "and they lived happily ever after". And actually most of my mods are like that - in TotDG it's the Gentle/Temper Touch thing, Yoshimo Romance, the story of the Dream and the Creator in Innershade, Yvette's story... I almost always base on those "negative" feelings, which for me aren't that negative at all. They are true.

However I do appreciate that you left your comment here. A pity you could not enjoy it as you wanted to, but on the other hand you can't say that it had no influence on you ;) It made you write the post, no? :)

I hope you will find a romance mod that can satisfy your character :)
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Re: Some Thoughts and a Possible Bug
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2012, 02:10:26 AM »
Yes, as I said, you are a great modder :)

However, it had very few to do with sad ending VS happy ending and more about... uhm, the possibility to have both, I would say. Or the possibility to "win" (whenever your interpretation of "winning" involve a sad or an happy ending).
I don't know if I make myself clear ò.ò

Also, a question! Yvette in this is like Yoshimo? Just to know for the future^^


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Re: Some Thoughts and a Possible Bug
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2012, 03:29:18 AM »
I have no idea how to make a acceptable Yoshimo Romance good ending :P A lot of people want to bring him back to life, but there is opposition, which believes it would ruin the originality of the character. I am member of the opposition :)

As for Yvette:
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her SoA part is very sweet, a bit sad in a moment, but charname makes her win. ToB part is sad, but because of SisterVigilante - author of Angelo - I decided to include and option to make her stay until the end of ToB if you make her too. However, epilogue will be a bit... less happy, but there is some kind of more positive aspect in it.
[/spoiler]
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Done projects:
Colours of Infinity: TotDG, Innershade, TWQ, ISNF, Yvette, Foundling
Quests: Eilistraee's Song
NPCs and related: Varshoon | Aeon | Petsy | Tsuki BG2 | Yoshimo Romance | La'Valygar | Quayle BG2 | Swylif | Skie BG2 | White | GaheshLa'Viconia
In-progress projects: Sarine (contribution) | The Purple Splinter | Foundling
Contribution: Ilmatar's Portrait Pack | PaintBG | InfinityKits | Sarevok Friendship