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Overview of the NPC IEP
« on: November 05, 2005, 05:13:35 PM »
What is the NPC Interaction Expansion Pack?

The NPC Interaction Expansion pack is an attempt to flesh out some of the more one-sided characters in Baldurs Gate 2: Shadows of Amn and Throne of Bhaal, give some characters the quests they deserve and even add a few Friendships* here and there.

What are the aims?

We hope to make the NPC's of Baldurs Gate 2 a little more immersive. There are a few NPC's who could use a little lovin' - for example, Nalia, who is one of the most underrepresented characters in the game, and Minsc, who people generally bring along for comic relief.

Our first priority is interjections. Interjections are not used to their full extent in SoA or ToB, and there are many times when certain characters should comment on events and don't. We are trying to correct this by adding the comments that Bioware overlooked, or left out.


Who's working on it?

Well, each person is working on two to three (and sometimes even 4) NPC's. The list is as follows (thanks to Tameon for compiling this!) :)

Haer 'Dalis & Yoshimo - Tameon the Dragoon

Nalia & Mazzy - theacefes

Minsc & Viconia - K'aeloree (Arconian volunteered to assist with Minsc)

Anomen & Jan - Fueille

Aerie & Edwin - Moongaze

Keldorn, Korgan & Valygar - Arconian

Jaheira - K'aeloree & Tameon the Dragoon

Cernd - K'aeloree & Fueille

We are leaving Imoen and Sarevok alone, as Quitch has the Imoen Relationship mod and Winterine and Sovran are doing the Sarevok Relationship mod.

Is this just another Banter pack?

No, this is not. The NPC Interaction Expansion pack tries to work on the PC/NPC relationships and make the NPC's comment on events more often, rather than work on NPC/NPC relationships. It will also add a number of encounters and quests for characters such as Minsc and Haer'Dalis who don't have many, if any at all.


*Friendships as in PC/NPC friendships. A friendship, in our opinion, is similar to a romance in that you get to know the NPC better and develop a relationship which is not romantic with said NPC.

Suggestions? Questions? Comments? Feel free to post!

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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2005, 07:17:23 PM »
Well done, I couldn't have put it better myself.

Auren: Does this mean that you dont love me anymore, Acefes?

Nalia: Wait...I'm underrepresented?  You mean no one has been listening to my bad-ass archmage rants in ToB?   What?!
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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2005, 07:26:20 PM »
I was just about to make such a thread, but got distracted by trail mix.

I love you, K'aeloree.

EDIT: For the record, here's how the writing is going to go down.

Haer 'Dalis & Yoshimo- Tameon the Dragoon

Nalia & Mazzy- theacefes

Minsc & Viconia- K'aeloree (Arconian volunteered to assist with Minsc)

Anomen & Jan- Fueille

Aerie & Edwin- Moongaze

Keldorn, Korgan & Valygar- Arconian

Jaheira- K'aeloree & Tameon the Dragoon

Cernd-  K'aeloree & Fueille

We are leaving Imoen and Sarevok alone (despite being two of my favorite NPCs  :-( ), as Quitch has the Imoen Relationship mod and Winterine and Sovran are doing the Sarevok Relationship mod.
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2005, 07:31:49 PM »
Whee, I'm loved.. XD I'll update it to make it more, uh, readable in a little while. :)

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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2005, 10:06:46 PM »
Will you add new epilogues (please say that not, there's enough of them already)?
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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2005, 10:08:49 PM »
I think we are going to be altering them....but I'm not 100% positive we are adding new ones....it depends on the NPC.
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« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2005, 10:25:38 PM »
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I think we are going to be altering them....but I'm not 100% positive we are adding new ones....it depends on the NPC.


I could see maybe adding one if the NPC goes through any changes during a Friendship track. We won't be tossing them around just for the hell of it, though.

Would you object to altering Minsc's epilogue?
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« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2005, 11:43:13 PM »
Hi :)

As Tameon and theacefes said, there will be new epilogues for the Friendship tracks for several NPC's.

Don't like it? Don't install them :)

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« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2005, 11:47:38 PM »
Quote from: "Tameon the Dragoon"
Quote from: "theacefes"
I think we are going to be altering them....but I'm not 100% positive we are adding new ones....it depends on the NPC.


I could see maybe adding one if the NPC goes through any changes during a Friendship track. We won't be tossing them around just for the hell of it, though.

Would you object to altering Minsc's epilogue?




Well I guess altering epilogues is OK but adding 6 new ones is poinless (how many times a player can do a full game run?) IMHO.
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« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2005, 11:56:53 PM »
You're right, adding 6 new epilogues is kinda silly...

However there are a few NPCs that will undergo some major changes through their friendship tracks/any other method of change we make and therefore a new or altered version of the epilogue will have to be made.
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« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2005, 04:00:02 AM »
Someone, someone, please spell my name right!  :cry:

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« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2005, 04:10:19 AM »
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« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2005, 04:10:59 AM »
:-D that's better!

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« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2005, 05:19:27 AM »
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We are leaving Imoen and Sarevok alone, as Quitch has the Imoen Relationship mod and Winterine and Sovran are doing the Sarevok Relationship mod.

This is a rather spurious argument for ignoring these NPCs, especially considering the existance mods that expand NPCs that do make your list. You should include them all or not include any of those NPCs which have additional content added but other mods.

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« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2005, 07:43:57 AM »
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We are leaving Imoen and Sarevok alone, as Quitch has the Imoen Relationship mod and Winterine and Sovran are doing the Sarevok Relationship mod.

This is a rather spurious argument for ignoring these NPCs, especially considering the existance mods that expand NPCs that do make your list. You should include them all or not include any of those NPCs which have additional content added but other mods.


I agree with that. Making the expansion track for each npc optional would avoid conflicts with other mods you might want to install.